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Siri Dhyan Singh

Hi Robb,

Do you see unions being able to progress? Collective bargaining power is a very important tool for working people. Union employees are generally better paid and have better benefits.

Some places like american apparel and whole foods have managed to avoid them because they actually meet the needs of their employees, but if you're at a company with ethnocentric leadership then you sure as Sh!# want a strong union.

At the same time I recognize problems with the unions and their protecting absolute crap employees. Having been a student in LAUSD I can testify that there are several teachers who do their job very poorly. Allowing administration to punish them is difficult because that power has been wielded with ethnocentric (or lower) bias quite often historically. I'd like to see the unions police themselves but that hasn't evolved yet.

Another anecdotal piece is that working for UC Berkeley in food service I saw many decently paid workers (myself included) not the most enthused about actually serving the customer in a way that engendered their repeat business above and beyond our local 'monopoly.' At some point I went back to visit campus and found a private cafe at the student library which was run by employees who I expect made significantly less than the unionized employees, yet provided more energy and enthusiasm with their customer service . . .

It is a complicated one to unwind.

Another interesting look at this is the documentary 'born rich' (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7457140802142500840) where an heir to the procter and gamble family fortune basically skewers the idea of america being a meritocracy from his perspective.

Please share your thoughts :)

No good choices, but Obama wasn't the best one

You are correct in your analysis that the candidates were both lacking. And I also agree that this election has been rife with rhetoric from both sides. Will this be the most pivotal election in US history? Nope, not even close, even with the media hype about how monumental it is to have a black president.

First of all, when Obama takes office, he still won't be the first black president. He will be the first president that has descended equally from a white parent and a black parent. He is no more black than white, so I think it very "ethnocentric" and disingenuous to label him as black. Such a label only seeks to polarize a vote based on his race, which is both a bigoted reason to vote for someone and a rationale that lacks in cerebral involvement. Would it be OK for people to choose McCain because he is white?

The other thing I disagree with is your assumption that Obama can basically do no harm since congress historically moves slow on change. While your premise is basically correct, the exception to the rule occurs when you have a super majority of one party in the house, senate, and presidency. Since we now have that super majority, we are going to see unprecedented collusion, payback of special interest lobbyists, and outright theft of taxpayer dollars. We saw the same thing under George Bush during the first 2 years as Republicans completely abolished the "conservate" moniker in favor of the spending spree democrats are noted for. Since Democrats have never really hesitated to spend tax payer dollars, and since no one can stop them at this point, I think we are all in for a disastrous borrowing spree over the next 4 years. How about a tax rebate for the lower income earners? Let's just borrow the money from China and we'll pay it back to them "whenever". How about national healthcare? Well, let's see, that takes money too...let's extend our line with China. How about bailouts for the auto industry...but wait, let's not bail out all of the auto industry - just the ones that were members of the American Auto Workers Union that helped get us elected. And let's extend our credit line with China to pay for that too. Yeah, that's wise spending 101.

By the way, let's raise taxes on "big business" so that we can offset all our spending projects, right? That will bring more money into the government coffers, right? Wrong and wrong. Time and time again, history has shown that raising the corporate tax rate does several things: (1) it discourages consumer spending. Consumers don't want to pay the higher rate that businesses charge for the same products and services they were getting cheaper before the tax hike (2) businesses have to cut back on employees because of reduced consumer spending. The easiest way for business to adapt to a decrease in consumer demand is to decrease their workfore (3)Less money is collected by the government in tax since there is less corporate revenue to tax

I know this is a difficult concept for the election day liberals (those that don't understand politics, but think the handouts sound like a nice idea), but it is really quite simple. Taxing businesses at a higher rate DOES NOT INCREASE TAX REVENUES!

The best we could have hoped for in this election was a mediocre John McCain who would have vetoed the democratic spending legislation. Nothing big would really get accomplished, but damage would have been minimal. As it now stands, we are positioned to incur some of the greatest debts our country has ever seen. Oh well, at least we have the nation's first half black half white president, right?

Greg Gardner

Robb,

I appreciate this blog. I, too, voted for Obama this year for many of the reasons that you sited. However, white guilt was not one of them.

There is however an additional reason that I wanted to share. I believe that 80% of the political discourse in this country is transitive. In other words, 80% of the argument is manufactured for the consumption of the hardened left and right. 20% of the debate is substantive.

This situation has lead to one of the most politically polarized times our country has seen. I fear that the situation is so serious that unless someone can really unite this divide, we are in for some really tough challenges ahead.

Few political leaders have the kind of talent necessary for this challenge. Obama does and has stated that he wants to unite our country. I voted for him because I am taking his word for it.

We will know fairly shortly whether or not these were just words but if he follows through on this, he will get my vote again in 08. If not, this will be a very short 4 years for Barrack.

Greg

Robb Smith

Greg - Time will tell on Obama, but what I was citing was not a matter of white guilt. I was citing one important way to heal a long-held cultural developmental pathology in the U.S. I think Obama's election is the most significant opportunity to do so and it is already clear just in the past 2 months that the notion of racial limitation has lost its hold as a credible social narrative. But this had to take place in the interiors of those who felt that way, not for those of us who have never experienced it.

Siri - I cannot generate a single argument that defends the existence and role of unions in a post-industrial economy. Another reason I think the bailouts are a tragedy for our auto industry.

No good - Obama is black, or if he isn't than that word doesn't mean anything. Technically, any signifier (i.e., word) is subject to the interpretive act of the user in a process of signification (i.e., interpretation) and thus words will only ever be a sliding and slippery reflection of an underlying ontology they can never quite approach. So while your rejection of "Obama is black" is true for you, it is also deeply partial and not stochastically true for the culture in which you are submerged (i.e., the culture at large interprets that Obama is black). Technically, the truth is both and neither.

By assuming that my suggestion of a vote for Obama because he is black is an ethnocentric move, you are committing a pre-trans fallacy. Both the pre-moral and trans-moral move focus on skin color as significant but for entirely different reasons. You assume that I am assigning a pre-moral normative value to Obama's skin color, which would indeed show up as bigotry, racism and the like. When one moves past this moral stage, developmentally, one begins to attempt to ignore skin color at all costs in an attempt to disassociate from the skin-color considerations of his/her prior moral stage of development.

I am assigning a trans-moral value to his being black in that his skin color is not only not constitutive of his character (a moral capability that emerged when I moved into a conventional moral stage) but it is also not insignificant as a reaffirmation of capability for Black Americans (a capability of post-conventional moral considerations). Recognizing that Black America suffers in part from a self-esteem crisis does not make me a racist (a pre-moral bias) but ignoring it also does not solve the deep limitations inherent to ignoring skin color altogether (conventional). Only in a post/trans-conventional view can one see how obvious this developmental healing is from a cultural standpoint.

As for fiscal and monetary policy, it's too long of a conversation to get in here, but let me summarize my position briefly: both parties are a disaster, very few people understand economics, and hopefully the crash comes that will put us back on a 100% gold standard where we will be forced to show some long-term fiscal and monetary discipline. We're so far from laissez-faire society that it's scary, and both parties are clueless.

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